Mr. Don Trump

Look up this case(s) in the Nevada Trial decisions:
State of Nevada v. Einbinder
State of Nevada v. Dahlberg
Over the last several weeks the sound and tone of your posts would indicate that you work for a Casino or other agency. Your definition of cheating may be correct by Websters standards. However this definition does not translate nor does it apply in this case. Casino personnel are trained to use proper procedure at all times. The failure by Casino personnel to protect their games through the use of poor procedure (which in some cases can lead to highly exploitable games) is the fault of ownership. Casinos have the option to re-train or terminate personnel.
Now suppose you knew a certain type of slot machine, manufactured by a certain company had a tendency to over pay you when you cashed out. Would you tell the Casino?
Now I know some slots have signs that say:
"Machine Malfunction Voids All Plays"
But this machine malfunction can be explioted without the Casino knowing.
Would you tell the Casino?
Imagine this...
You've just played every hand correctly...
You've ramped up when appropriate...
You've ramped down when appropriate...
You've played perfect basic...
You've kept a perfect count...
You still lose...
The tap on the shoulder...
You are welcome to play any game but Blackjack...
On the way out you notice one of those slots that have a tendency to over pay on occasion through no manipulation of your own...
You take them up on their offer, any game but BJ...
You play the slot...
You insert a dollar...
It begins to overpay when you cash out...
1 Hour later, from that $1 investment you have recouped all your losses and then some...

Are you cheating the machine? No it is a malfunction.
Are you cheating when a Dealer uses poor procedure? No it is a Malfunction

Remember the law is not bound by Websters and neither are Casinos or Players.

Never make this mistake...
Never use or imply that morality is part of a casinos make up...
Never use or imply that ethics are part of a casinos make up...
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO SEPERATING PLAYERS FROM THEIR BANKROLL
They do it legally but, is it ethical or moral?

The Stumpmiester (just an unbiased opinion)

You have much more gaming experience than Trump. He's probably a new recruit having problems catching on to basic fundamentals.
However,I'm sure he'll try to tell you a few things about gaming though.

I am a card counter who despises the casinos as much or more than anyone else here. I was merely responding to a quote that was in your post:

" And, frankly, any one who is still counting in the mistaken impression that is a superior or even adequate form of advantage play is a moron."

I don't like being called a moron because I can win without cheating. And sir, I've been counting cards since 1980, so you can leave your smart comments (that are not based on any factual knowledge you have on me) in the toilet where it belongs. If you can walk into a casino and play blackjack using 270 index numbers then you can start to compare yourself with me. And you and the other shills who toss around accusations at people that they are casino employees can save them for someone else. I will not be harassed, insulted, and slandered merely for stating my opinion without fighting back.

I bet you know when the count is right to double down on a blackjack, or what to do if they forget to take the jokers out of the decks or if they accidently deal you a cut card.I'm so ashamed of myself when i have to look down my pants to remember the last number I can double down on when I have an 11. LOL