Is single deck 6 to 5 beatable w/ continuous shuffle?

Exact rules? Cut card or fixed number of rounds before shuffling? Or is it the 100% penetration scenario which started all of this? Which indices?

For SCORE there are a total of 3 players at the table for SD.

Regardless of the answers to the above, the 3rd player will do slightly better than a single player due to increased effective penetration.

2 players for SD. :)

I simulated a single deck 6:5 game 70% Penetration using Hi-Lo and easily beat it with a 1-10 spread. The rules are Stand-17, DAS, SPL3, NRA, no Surrender. 
 

What is the SCORE if there are a total of 3 players at the table? You place the cut card at 16 cards to the bottom. If cards are used up in a deck, you void the result of that whole round. 
 

You just use the double-deck strategy and deviation indices for single-deck, for simplicity. 

I will add a face up or face down option for the extra players spots in blackjack-hack (it currently defaults to face up). But these extra spots are still only dealt 2 cards and hands not completed.

Thanks,

Phil

I added a face up and face down option. My simulator has a problem running single deck with more than 2 players even at just 70% penetration. It’s likely running out of cards on some decks. It doesn't have a way to complete hands when running out of cards and it just hangs. Will see if I can fix it but will put in an error message for now asking to adjust inputs,

2 players with 65% for single deck currently works fine. These restrictions are only needed for single deck. Sorry about this.

Phil

Phil, for consistency with normal procedures, make sure that the face down cards are revealed and counted when:

The initial hand hand busts

The initial hand is doubled

The initial hand is split

The initial tucked cards are flipped to be totalled

I'm wondering how aceside, managed to simulate the game at all given the issue with running out or cards that Phil has described. I'm assuming he would have used Phil's simulator. I'm guessing that he probably didn't actually do it.

Two players to the right for a total of 3.

p159: we put two players at the single-deck games . . . .

p192: two players at the single-deck game . . . we got to play last . . . .

p211: For single-deck, there was one player to our right . . . .

I will test the simulator tomorrow, but before that I have an opinion here. It’s more reasonable to deal 3 cards each to these extra spots. For two reasons:

#1. Player uses about 2.7 cards each round.

#2. Dealer uses about 2.9 cards when completing her hand every round. If not when player busts, about 2.8.

My simulator is only actually realistic and accurate for heads up play. It defaults to heads up play. The extra players if turned on are just dummy spots that receive 2 cards and don’t play. And you can pick a seat position for your hand which is played.
 

Face up the count is kept as dealt, face down the count is updated for the extra players cards only after your hand is played. So that’s all accurate but It won’t be realistic for multiple players until the extra players actually play.

Thanks,

Phil

For face up the cards are counted as dealt. For face down the count is updated for extra players only when their cards are revealed. The extra players currently only receive 2 cards and don’t play (was there for an approximation) so they are just counted after the simulated hand is complete. 
 

So it’s not equipped for detailed table position analysis. I probably should not have added extra players options until it was. The simulator defaults to heads up play which should be completely accurate.

Thanks,

Phil

It's fun when players quote page numbers without even stating what book they refer to. 😊 And yes, you're quite right. When I read what Gronbog had written, above, something didn't quite ring true, but then I got distracted and never commented on it. Thanks.

Don

I stand humbly corrected.

I've tried the simulator a few more times. My finding: the main income originates from insurance for a single-deck 6:5 game; therefore, we should not card-count the main game at all. To beat this game, all we need to do is play perfect insurance.

I also compared Seat 1 and Seat 2. Contrary to common sense, your Seat 1 consistently produces a higher income than Seat 2. Just let you know.  

Sigh.

Don

Again, why would knowledgeable players continue dialog w/Aceside's mostly nonsese??

MOSTLY NONSENSE ABOVE