how can we get rid of HEAT

is there any book or webpage to reduce heat.It seems pit bosses will get smarter and smarter every day.They know all strategies,bigplayers and so on.. Its hard to play BJ over an hour to get eyes back to you.
Is BJ dead already?

You can't get rid of heat. It can be deflected, and a small stakes player may never experience a serious bout of it, but you have to accept it as part of the conditions under which you play.

For the most part, high limit BJ is dead if you expect to play over the long term. The surveillance and other information is way too strong in today's game here in Las Vegas.

Smaller limit is still profitable if you make certain you only play profitable games (use a simulator), move around often, and give different names in each place. DO NOT refuse to give a name as that will raise red flags to the pit. I would not recommend using player cards as they will track you and soon find out you're a winner. I would not seek comps as that too will cause them to track you. Your profits should be able to pay for a buffet. Also, avoid toking. Not a great picture, but that's what it will take to be a consistent winner who can return in the future. You have to decide what your objective is: win money regularly or eat at the restaurants, get comped rooms, and watch opportunities to play eventually disappear.

get out of the kitchen...

I know it is heresy in counter circles to toke, but I encourage everyone to do it. It is great cheap cover, and just because the casino treats the dealers like tihs doesn't mean we should too.

Yes it cuts into profits, but I make a point of toking at the rate of about $5 per hour. I have seen pits just walk away once they see me throw a single white chip to the dealer. We are known as such cheapskates that this little act reassures many that I am not a counter.

does not pay attention to what you are toking. Furthermore, many times, especially if you have a good win, the dealer will not be pleased with your $5 toke and will be mad at you anyway. So why bother? When I leave the table and hear their loud, sacastic "thank you", I smile and respond with an even louder and more cheerful "Thank you!" At that point they invariably think I'm just a dumb tourist. When I play in the big games toking becomes a different question. More on that at another time.

I should publish a book on all my specific responses to all the usual things said to me at the tables over the years.

The pit...does not pay attention to what you are toking.

The pit very often does pay attention to what you are toking. Very often I have had judgements go in my favor when I am toking. Life miraculously becomes easier in some regards if you toke. And although it is illegal to be in collusion with the dealer, the dealer is much more likely not to back up the game if they mispaid you in your favor. Dealers know what they can get away with in this regard.

This is more the Ian Anderson approach though. If you toke, you are building a relationship with the casino. There are circumstances when this is in your favor. If you are a slash and burn counter who thinks a $5 tip on a $10K win is too much, then you do not want to build a relationship with the casino.

I don't get backed off a lot. But then again I don't count much either. So I have a little more rope to work with. If you bet a red chip in the lower end of your spread or do a straight count game, you should probably never toke regardless.

Math Boy

You state:

"If you are a slash and burn counter who thinks a $5 tip on a $10K win is too much, then you do not want to build a relationship with the casino."

My point was not about "slash and burn" (whatever that is). My point is that whatever you toke they are often upset that it is not enough anyway. If a player has a 20 minute session and wins several thousand and gives he dealer $50 toke (which would be insane) they will not be satisfied anyway as they generally believe they "gave you the money" and expect more. After years of playing, I am convinced that dealers as a group are the most ungrateful of all tipped employees. If they are going to get mad anyway, why bother? Save your money, give it to the guy outside who may need a meal, you'll feel better.

As for your "building relationships" comment (who are you Dr. Ruth?), bad idea. When they know you and you win regularly, you (and your "relationship") are out of there. Period. Better they do not know who you are.

Then you say:

"The pit very often does pay attention to what you are toking. Very often I have had judgements go in my favor when I am toking. Life miraculously becomes easier in some regards if you toke."

ON WHAT PLANET???

I may be a little blunt but if you are serious about winning you need to consider the cold hard facts. The casinos are not politically correct and are not concerned with your feelings.

the departing dealer always claps his hands and points to the tipper.
He's really pointing out the tipper to the new dealer. They're never satisfied.

Dealers will be happy with a $50 tip. How would you know since you never do?

they want the other dealer to see who to be pleasant to. Also judging by your non counting method of play you are a novice anyway.

scooter-
i use tokes on small games to get the dealer to deal another round: on single/double deck games i put up a red for him when i think the count is in my favor: now the dealer wants to win the hand like i do.

(i'm convinced that the average seasoned BJ dealer in LV can count better than i can. they will shuffle or deal according to how they feel the players are treating them: ie- YOUR TOKES/)

I have witnessed it enough times.

and yes, the pit does notice. I have had inside information concerning comments made about me by pit critters for not tipping during my losing sessions. Of course I won't tip when I'm losing. However, during a winning session, I will since most high limit players toke and I have to fit in with the crowd. Besides, there have been enough times where toking got me better pen.

They may not care about my feelings, nor do I about theirs, but I do care about how long I am welcome in a particular store. And if toking for cover helps...

Are you sure that toking helps to prolong your life in certain casino?
I think it matter of 30 minutes for pit boss to determine that you are card counter.At least (basic strategy,gradual betting) very hard to hide that u are not cardcounter.
I think it is not due to that when u tipping u cannot be cardcounter...

Mayby they notice that you are advantage player,but when u tip a lot nobody want to get rid of you in spite that u are cardcounter.You are their annual extra income.Mayby pitboss is one of them who shares tip pot.

I have my system for tipping.My edge is 1,5% over casino.I tip 0.2-0.5% of my edge.I think it pays evantually.
And i only tip when pitboss is watching the table!!

But sometimes there are not any diffrence of tipping u will get anyway bann if u are cardcounter.

Are you sure that toking helps to prolong your life in certain casino?
I think it matter of 30 minutes for pit boss to determine that you are card counter.At least (basic strategy,gradual betting) very hard to hide that u are not cardcounter.
I think it is not due to that when u tipping u cannot be cardcounter...

I'm not saying tipping adds longevity. Unless you tip a ridiculous amount.

Let me give an example. Awhile ago I wanted a shoe game open. Because I was liked at the casino, they opened up a new shoe game for me in a new pit. I was going to make a few thousand in EV that night, so I tipped the dealers enough times for the pit to notice. I have a method of tipping that maximizes the dealers and pit noticing it that I do not wish to share. After all, I was probably taking someone off break or something. The dealer and the pit. If I hadn't tipped before, I would not have gotten my reserved table to begin with at this place.

This is a place where I have passed muster. I am not counting, but still playing a game where I have to spread. I am basically spreading 1-40. About an hour into the game the dealer gives me a 5, a 4, and then two cards come out of the shoe when she is taking her card. I yell "misdeal". She says she thinks the card on the right is supposed to be her card. Because of my crappy beginning hands I say I thought it was the card on the left. Pit comes over, smiles at me, and says to burn all the cards and start over. I looked it up, and that was just about the EV of the tip that I had left.

Twice during that session I had mispays. After each one the dealer hesitated after scooping up the cards, so I know she caught it. If she didn't like me, she would have called over the pit to back up the cards and take back my money.

I never got backed off there although I am up well into 5-figures. The game just deteriorated. If I were a card counter, I probably would have been backed off regardless.

I also tip security guards to walk me to my car if I am nervous. I have hired a bodyguard in a foreign country where I was nervous and tipped casino security there as well. If someone does me a favor, I will tip.

If I am playing with money that is not completely mine, I don't tip. If I am counting cards, I tip very rarely. When I was playing with max bets around 2x$300 or lower, I never tipped.

Math Boy