If you want to spread from 25- 250 should you go from one green chip to 10 green chips or 1 green to 2 black and 2 greeen on top?
My experience is more along the lines of red to green and back again.
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I like to keep my chip stack, as well as my bet, a little mixed up, a little haphazard. It does slow down the dealer when making payoffs but I think it keeps you looking less like a counter and more like a gambler.
Years ago on these pages, Bill Zender (a noted authority from the other side of the tables) recommended keeping the number of chips bet at 4 or less. I generally try to follow this advice. In your case, e.g. 1 to 4 green, then a black and two green, then 2 black and a green, etc. By always having a green on top, you look like a superstitious ploppy and you lessen the ability for the eye to keep track of your bets. Thus a counter catcher will have to come within your view to watch your game in real time (or they will have to carefully go through the footage after you are gone) if they suspect that you are counting.
On the other hand, twice I have seen counters (2 different casinos) successfully (with good cover) parlay stacks of green chips until their bet was almost a foot tall! I would not recommend this.
Dr 21
I agree with Dr 21 and I try to do that. However, this is much easier if the the dealer starts to give you black but if all you have is green, it would be awakard to try to cahnge it to black just to bet it right away. Some dealer are so lazy that they would even keep giving you the same color indefinetly. I learned now to ask for it.
they are not lazy. It is casino's policy not to change color while paying players. They're more vulnerable to mistakes this way, intentional or not. How many people know right away what is correct payout on 95$ blackjack? Bishop recommends to beware of casinos where they pay you this way(BBiB, chapter on cheating)
> they are not lazy. It is casino's policy not to change color while
> paying players.
Most dealers are trained to avoid changing colors unless they are running low on a certain denomination or the player is becoming flooded with a particular denomination. They don�t want the players to empty the float of all the red chips so they will begin to pay larger bets with greens. It also makes it easier for the dealer to color up.
Then again, some of them are just lazy�or afraid to make a mistake.
It certainly has great potential for errors (accidental or not!), so be sure to count your payoffs every time they do something �tricky.� A better plan is to already know what the payoffs are for your bet schedule so that you don�t have to do the math every time. The dealers often make payouts from memory, and so should you. Since you are a card counter, your memory is probably better than theirs!
-Sonny-
The procedure is as said for a dealer to pay green with green, red with red etc. But when the tray is running low often a dealer will pay for instance your 8 green bet with 2 blacks but is required to tell the pit.
> The procedure is as said for a dealer to pay green with green, red
> with red etc. But when the tray is running low often a dealer will
> pay for instance your 8 green bet with 2 blacks but is required to
> tell the pit.
That sounds about right although many dealers will simply do it without confirmation from the pit, mainly for low stakes. I have seen many dealers pay a winning $20 bet with a green chip and take one of the reds off of the original bet as change. I have a feeling that many of those dealers are used to dealing craps where making change with players is much more frequent. I don't know how strictly the casinos enforce that rule.
In any case, if they are dealing "by the book" they will be making payouts as you said.
-Sonny-
Some may have a rule where the dealer is supposed to call out
whenever a bet more than doubles. Some may be instructed to call
out whenever they see a black. In the later type, I've been
able to jump from one green to eight no problem, then later
from four green to one black gets the call out.
I hate when they do that because I always think they are cheating me. As Sonny said if you have your spread down you should know the payoff in advance.
