Fail Proof Non Card Counting Strategies

What's the deal with all these books out there that say you don't have to count to win and it's a waste of time. Are these authors just making a quick buck off of those who think counting is to hard to learn. Some of these people swear by it and I just can't see how you can have the same if not more of an advantage by not counting. What do you think?

What's the deal with all these books out there that say you don't have to count to win and it's a waste of time. Are these authors just making a quick buck off of those who think counting is to hard to learn.

They might think they are, but they are deluding themselves if that is so. Publishing is a bad industry to make money out of (unless you write cookbooks or horseshit about why 9/11 was carried out by aliens). The market is small compared to other forms of entertainment.
Gambling books are a small part of the book market.
The market for advantage play books is a small part of the gambling books market. The market for books which say advantage play doesn't work is a niche within a niche within a niche within a crap industry.

Some of these people swear by it and I just can't see how you can have the same if not more of an advantage by not counting. What do you think?

In most cases they just honestly believe what they write, however stupid it is.

These are people who publish books. People involved in mail-order scams where large amounts of money are involved (eg E Clifton Davis and Leonard Benson) are far more cynical and ruthless.

That's what I thought. Thanks for the comment.

"I've been asked not to talk about it on a public board."

Right. Wouldn't want the light of day to shine on the fallacious reasoning involved, would we.

... maybe because casino personel read this board?

Richard, don't go sharing anything with some goathed1 guy, either. Geesh! Share only with well-established long-time posters. Even then there's a fair chance you're talking to surveilance goons. There have been several examples.

I shared something myself on a semi-public forum a few weeks ago where I knew almost everybody. It wasn't even a secret, per se, but I think I'm starting to pay for it already.

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You can use them to turn the game at least slightly in your favor.

I think all of them have probably been mentioned on this board at one time or another, but I understand Richard's reluctance to broadcast his response.

Someone once paraphrased a well-known quote. The best way to leave Vegas with a million dollars, by playing blackjack without counting cards, is to arrive with _two_ million dollars.

I don't read this board that often, and I don't pay much attention to handles.

Go ahead and email Richard, but use a hotmail account and DON'T, under any circumstances, divulge ANY personal information. In fact, everyone should use those precautions when contacting ANYONE from this board.

Richard seems to have forgotten his promise to announce his dealer status in every post. tsk tsk ...

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I have been counting cards very successfully for over a decade. I also independently "discovered" Richard�s non-counting "method" to extract money from the casinos and have been using it very successfully for over a decade. (It can be used to gain an edge at the same time as counting.) I am one of the people that asked Richard not to post his idea. The reason is simple. The casinos could (and would) close this �loophole� very quickly if they knew how much it costs them. Many on this board probably already use this �method� to a small degree without realizing how successful they could be if they exploited it further.

Dr 21

P.S. I do believe that most people that try to sell non-counting methods are scam artists. Richard was not trying to sell anything.

P.S. for Richard � You are too kind to try to help people that treat you badly because of your profession. They do not deserve to know your method. The more people use it, the more likely the �loophole� will be closed for you and me. I am also concerned that casino employees may email you in order to help shut advantage play down.

Dr 21 is the one that told me its best not to reveal it on a public board. Out of consideration for some people trying to make some money, I won't, but I will answer emails.

I tried to change my handle but I would have to set up another email I think

Curiousity kills the cat (tongue-in-cheek.)

Anyway, a Ric's trick reminded me of an incident in which a supervisor refused my $500 bet on behalf of an Oriental guy. He got a hand of hard 11 against a dealer's 5 on top. He was short of greenbacks, so he asked me if I wanted to go for it. I said: "SURE!" However, the supervisor said: "NO CAN DO because one needs his own money to DOUBLE DOWN!." Go figure!

That could be a casino rule. I know that in Missouri casinos you can't pass any kind of monetary value to anyone else, because they have a limit as to how much you can buy in for per gaming session. So giving someone your chips, would violate that rule.

But in most instances you can give your chips to someone and they can put the bet for you. There should be no reason the casino should disallow it.