crowded tables

My question is on the negative aspect of a crowded table (5, 6 or 7 players at once) when the count is high. I understand that if there are a lot of players; the good sections of the deck will end faster. But since I play only 6 deck shoes (the only game available where I live ) the good portion tends to last a little longer.

So my question: Without talking about the rapid depletion of cards by having a lot of players in the table. What other disadvantages or (advantages) are there if you play a crowded tables ?

Thank you

MT

The main disadvantage to crowded tables is that you are only getting maybe 50/60 hands an hour as oppossed to 100 or more if you are heads up.

If I understand your question right .. the crowded table imparts no add'l disadvantage as it pertains to 'soaking up the good cards.' Those add'l players will also soak up the bad ones for you. You will still get your share of naturals, splits, and doubles .. just not as many per hour. You percentage EV should not change but your EV in dollars per hour will surely suffer with a table full of other players simply because you are moving less money through the system.

It depends on what you mean by "crowded". If you mean that there are 3-6 ploppies at all tables, then there are positive and negative aspects. If you mean that most tables are full, making wonging difficult, then there are only negatives.

Positives:
Easier to wong-in and out - only applicable to shoes
Easier to be inconspicuous, which is especially nice if you have been barred at this casino

Negatives:
Slower tables
Hurts pen at SD and DD tables

...the good sections of the deck will end faster.

Why do you think this?

When the count is high the more players there are in the table, the more card that are handed out; so the �good� part of the shoe will end sooner (the part with many high cards), because the high cards will be dealt in less rounds.

What I tried to ask was if the odds of receiving high cards (when the deck is full of high card �high count�) changes if there are more people at the table?

Thank you
MT

if the odds of receiving high cards (when the deck is full of high card �high count�) changes if there are more people at the table?

No. What ever the count is, the cards you receive will be respective of that count at that moment, regardless of whether you are by yourself or if there are many players. However, if you are sitting on 3rd base, the TC has just as much chance of going higher as it does of going lower before you actually get your cards. On average though, the TC will be the same when you get your cards as it was when you placed the original bet in the circle. The problem is; you are getting less hands during the high count. You will also get less hands during low counts which is a good thing. The other players are just eating a lot of cards.

Less players at the table is best unless you are a "user". I like to use one other player to eat bad cards while I'm sandbaging or wonged out during neg areas of any given shoe.

Here is a suggestion to help block out as least one player: Sit just left of the center of the table, right between two circles. Where you possition your chair, can help you to keep two circles blocked from other players trying to use either of them.

Thank you Stealth bomber

That was exactly the answer I was looking for.

MT