BigpPlayer

BP, would you and anyone else who cares to, tell me about your experience w/ Zen? I've been counting for about 4 months now using a level one count. After getting a little table and casino experience I'm now taking a break and considering moving to level 2.
I believe you and I are from the same neck of the woods(south). What I have deduced, in general is, SD games are ok and heat is never far away, DD games have terrible pen, and 6D have great pen w/ little heat.
I have BJ for Blood and have condidered AO2 but I'm not big on ace side count, especially for 6D(and I think I might just be too damned lazy for AO2). I've read that AO2 indices work w/ Zen.
What are your thaughts? Is zen ok for SD and 6D? Can I use the AO2 indices?
Thanx for all responses.

Are you thinking balanced or unbalanced Zen? I too am interested in hearing real-world experience with UBZ; the published numbers look real good

I was actually considering balanced zen b/c of future shuffle- tracking possibilities, which I forgot to mention and ask about.

I am a long time Zen user.

Zen is not the best count for any particular game, however, it is a strong count for all games and arguably the easiest multi-level balanced count to learn and use. Because the Ace is not side counted Zen is a little weaker in pitch games than counts like AO2 or HI OPT 2 when the Ace is sided. If you're planning on only playing shoes, stick with HI LO, if pitch is your game of choice and you can handle the Ace side count, try AO2 or HI OPT 2. If siding the Ace is too much for you or you plan on playing a mix of games, Zen would be a excellent choice.

Compromise? Never!! HO2 for all games. Max out that departure expectation and learn to side count those twenty-four aces in your sleep. What the hell good is a brain if you don't use it. I prefer HO2 as it has only three non-zero values, meaning less arithmetic. RPC has the same three values. Use Griffin2 (Bryce Carlson's count) and there are four! Use the Eleven Count (the "Halves") and there are five!

Simplify, simplify, simplify.

For shoe games, assuming Cadillac's count selection is one of the more popular counts, it doesn't much matter what count he chooses. The choice of counts for use in shoe games is one of the least important decisions he will make.