I don't understand all the discussion. Standing on a player 16 vs a dealer 10 is the correct play for any and every card counter until a true count of minus one, at which time you would hit.
Standing on 16 vs. 10 with a bigger bet, and then hitting with a minimum bet is a sign that the player may be counting. Always standing is an alternative cover play that in the long run doesn't cost you much, especially if you don't play a lot in negative decks, so the cost may be worth the potential longevity.
The index for 16 vs. 10 is not a -1. It is a [virtual] zero.
What count are you using that gave you a negative index ??
The actual fact of the matter, was decided in the late 70's
where, for a single deck, Julian Braun, in creating Hi-Opt II,
the most accurate (practical) Card Counting System ever,
computed it as being precisely -0.3
I suspect that for a 4 deck game it is -0.2 and -0.1 with
6 decks and -0.05 with 8 decks, but those are guesses
as there is no pragmatic value to splitting these BJ hairs
That slightly negative index was for use with Hi-Opt II, a level II system.
When converting to a level one count (e.g. Hi-Lo) you get a fairly accurate index by multiplying the level II Index by 0.67%
thus returning the actual index to sitting just an r.c.h.* below ZERO
* r.c.h. is engineer's shorthand for a minuscule measure, i.e. the width of a "red cunt hair"
A red cunt hair (also RCH,[10][11] red pussy hair, and red one[12]) is a figure of speech used to represent infinitesimal length.[13][14][15][16] It is a slang, tongue-in-cheek term that purports to describe a unit of measure, but is actually a subjective notion, and can change depending on the situation in which it is used.
The term is based on the concept of a pubic hair being small in diameter, and can be used to describe a minor adjustment necessary, and is akin to terms such as 'a tad', 'a smidgen', etc. The phrase is generally used to objectify small clearances, dimensions, or distances.In usage, the terms "hair", "cunt hair" and "red cunt hair" are related and each one is considered smaller and more precise than the preceding one ("hair" being largest and "red cunt hair" being smallest). It is thought to have originated in the late 1950s, as military slang. However, according to several WWI veterans, the term was in use at least as early as World War I.The phrase is associated with the traditionally male domains of military and engineering environments, and is used by some writers to evoke them. In Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon invoked "a gnat's ass or red cunt hair" as images of very small units.
They may not remember whether you hit or not. Plus some players vary their decisions anyway.
All right, thanks Flash. That's what I use in my system. It may be due to standing a little longer rather than hitting at zero, or -.3. I may be out of there at -1 anyway. I'll check on my indices.
Thanks Flash,
Robbie
I had determined that you were an engineer. Now I know what kind. LOL.
A male hair? I did major in electrical engineering for two years before I switched to Math which was much easier.
Feedback from an expert on this subject, [alias Johnny Nutsack]:
" . . . allow me to clue you in on the author's mistake! The RCH is actually the "mid-grade", being slightly larger in diameter than a blond cunt hair but having a smaller diameter from a black cunt hair. 1 RCH = .00069 in., so to say "It needs to go about 3 RCH's to the left" means not very far at all! "
The term "consistency" is a blackjack bugbear of mine !
It is not latently absurd. It is patently absurd.
In the minds of the innumerate, "consistency" as a concept has gravitas.
It has no place in a discussion of basic strategy, where it can be
bandied about as a form of camouflage. How you say ? Read on.
I cannot imagine just how many times in the last 30 years I have heard a dealer
intone, (with a seriously silly scent of pompous expertise), words to the effect:
"It doesn't matter what you do. You just need to be consistent."
If I am sufficiently bored, (as is typically the case), I will actually impede the game's
progress by piping up -- interjecting "Oh, I get it! That means you can be wrong
100% of the time or correct 100% of the time. I think that I will flip a coin; then
I will be correct HALF of the time ! HEY ! The BEST way to go is to trust my hunches !"
Note: emphasis on the ending as my voices rises in volume and pitch as I proceed.
Back to what I said above about "camo'" --
My comment can provide a means of fending off a comment like
"You must be some kinda' weirdo counter card reader character I
heard about once." The comment (or more pointedly, the thoughts)
are actually "pre-empted" by my comment !
Oh look ! The pit critter has fetched me a host ! L.O.L.
many blonde and/or how many black c hairs equal 100 red c hairs. I'm working on a conversion table with my orange haired girlfriend.
because the cards remember if YOU hit or stuck on your last 16 vs. 10.
I don't know how or why you entered consistency into the conversation?, as I have been speaking about variability! With all due respect, because I thought we were starting to have some nice reasonable conversations, you are starting to act pedantically like Gorgon.
I could sense your voice rising in excitement, importance, AND volume.
I don't care one iota what the dealer thinks or says even if he is correct because it is what I think and know that makes any difference.
But I' m not sure what precipitated your post.
Your Pal,
Robbie
Robbie,
I was neither addressing nor referring to you !
The thread refers to Basic Strategy and 16 vs. 10
... the hand that most often triggers the silly controversy.
Having heard this ploppy debate many hundreds of time . . .
Thanks , Flash, no problem!
Robbie
Except the boring crap whether to stand or hit 16 v 10.
I will expand my horizons regarding the RCH controversy :)
The one thing nobody mentions is, how much cover is it really to always stand w/ 16 vs 10, and then be seen consistently hitting it vs 7, 8 or Ace?
