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Moose

Posted By: Minnesota Fats
Date: 7 Nov 01, 11:42 am

In Response To: I do not need to read a single book on craps.. (Moose)

Moose I have to say that I disagree with you on this. Now, don't get me wrong. I have a great deal of respect for you and enjoy reading your posts. You obviously have a great understanding of blackjack and poker (and stook :^)). However, I think it is a mistake to write off a game just because the casino is supposed to have an advantage. I would like to say right here that I do not advocate progression betting or some other nonsense. But...

You say that "it is mathematically IMPOSSIBLE" to achieve an advantage at craps. Yet, in Beyond Counting, Grosjean shows how to beat many negative expectation casino games including craps. Now, I realize that this book is the exception to the rule, but it proves my point that advantage players should always keep an open mind.

When I first started playing, I thought counting was the only proven way to defeat the casinos. However, reading John May's Get the Edge at Blackjack really opened my eyes. I began to learn about sequence tracking, shuffle tracking, ace location, front loading (in blackjack and other games), bonus hustling, and coupon hustling just to name a few. It became clear to me that there are many ways to exploit the casinos other than card counting. I think it is important for advantage players to keep their eyes open for opportunities at other places the blackjack tables.

Just my opinion,
MF

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